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jump to expanded posthey, if suzumiya haruhi disappeared from the world for a day, wouldn't that be fucked up?
today is the 31st of october. that means there's 56 days until christmas
hey, imagine if there were no time travellers, aliens, espers or isekaijin in the world! that wouldn't be a very good world at all! it would be so bo~ring! that's not right!
ordinary people dni! that's an order!
there must be a thousand other people on this train! maybe ten thousand! and nooone of them are exciting at all! i bet none of them know what an isekaijin is! that's so boring! that's so uninteresting! how could you live like that!
i'm gonna paint a message to other worlds on top of this airport! just you wait!
this suitcase is red because i'm the brigade leader!
kyon, you're not allowed to have a colourful suitcase. brigade leader's decision. you'll be buying mine for me though
ahh, i wish mikuru was here. she could easily fit in this check-in baggage!
you hear that squeal? no you didn't, that's an ordinary and entirely unsuspicious suitcase! :)
hey, maybe a normal person doesn't need three trays full of electronics to get through security. that's okay with me. i have no interest in being a normal person!
<hikari> lmao the flights to tel aviv have an additional security check
any rumours you may have heard that i just lost my watch and then got it back are false! the brigade leader band stays on at all times!
this airport has something much cooler than a moving walkway! you can slide along the floor! yahoo~
if you are wondering in any way what is going on this thread: the answer is you should believe in whatever is the most interesting conclusion! because it's absolutely more exciting that way~!
<koizumi> Isn't Suzumiya-san a fascinating individual? Some of my colleagues believe that she has the power to make herself reveal. That, perhaps if Suzumiya were a fictional character, she would consciously or unconsciously unbecome fictional. An interesting thought, is it not?
<koizumi> That was intended to say “real”. But somehow what was actually typed is fitting in its own way.
<koizumi> That is to say… Suzumiya possesses of “god”-like attributes even in a world where, by conventional interpretation, she ought not to be divine, or is even considered to exist. So long as even the idea of Suzumiya Haruhi exists in the world, then Suzumiya-san will exist.
<kyon> You mean that, even if Suzumiya Haruhi were to die tomorrow, we would not be rid of her? Even if Suzumiya Haruhi were to only be a character faintly remembered by me alone, she would somehow reappear in this world?
<koizumi> That is one interpretation, yes.
<kyon> -_-;;
hey, i can hear you, you know! i don't know why you're discussing my existence, i've been here the whole time!
this tweet is about kyon-kun [pronounced suspiciously similar to kyonko] by the way! i don't think they want you to know that. i'm not asking permission! brigade leader's privilege~!
(quoting https://twitter.com/fractalmagica/status/1851006871831986190:)
force-femmed! by the overarching narrative
happy halloween~!
<hikari> oh my god why have i been trying to learn bouken desho desho from sheet music all this time it's actually super easy if i play it entirely by ear
<hikari> and by ear i mean from memory. i am starting to suspect i have a good memory of note pitches. i can tell if it's out of key.
<koizumi> perhaps it is the will of Suzumiya that—
<kyon> hey, she is not God!
<kyon> wait… what am I saying… perhaps you're right
<kyon> (ahh, Suzumiya, you test me! how am I supposed to remain sane!)
flight is delayed… booooring!
hey, hey, they're asking for a Personalausweis! do you think my brigade leader identification card would work?
<kyon> you have what, now?
yeah! i do! kyon, get the laminator!
<kyon> (she's not seriously…)
this first flight is to Warszawa! that's such a cool name! they should name more cities like that! there should be a Tokyoszawa in Japan and a Berlinszawa in Germany and a Stockholmszawa in Sweden! and an Atlantiszawa!
<kyon> Haruhi, that's not a real—
hmm? so what! ^^
they're taking off! your brigade leader will be spreading excitement over the skies of central europe now! back soon~!
<hikari> for the record, yes, airplane mode was briefly turned off again during takeoff just to post this joke
it was a race against the clock~!
https://social.noyu.me/@hikari/statuses/01JBHWVDPV8H5WYF4DFFJGAEVQ
hey, i got two seats all to myself on this flight! they must have recognised the importance of me, Suzumiya Haruhi, in my role as leader of the SOS Brigade!
<kyon> yes, Haruhi, I'm sure the airline knows who you are…
also, time flies when you have a keyboard on a plane! i think you should always bring a musical keyboard with you on a journey, no matter where you are going and no matter what means of transport! what if the song of the heavens came to you suddenly and you couldn't play it!!!
imagine, you meet an alien, and you have to communicate with them through the language of music, because nothing else will do! if you didn't have a musical instrument then the human race would die out in that moment! so you must always have one!!!
flight two! your brigade leader will be once again spreading excitement over the skies of Europe! specifically to Copenhagenszawa! I bet there's time travellers there!
wow! the lights on the runway are green! I think this is a message… the aliens will recognise that this is the human colour for alien and feel welcomed! that's so cool!
<koizumi> “Is 「Suzumiya Haruhi」 an isekaijin”? This is a rather complicated matter. Obviously, you have seen for yourself her extraordinary abilities. She does not feel completely of this world. And yet…
<koizumi> Well, the problem with “is Suzumiya-san an isekaijin” is that her feeling out of place in this world is not in itself sufficient.
<kyon> Are you saying she must, in fact, belong in some other world, more precisely?
<koizumi> Yes. And that is the problem with Suzumiya-san. Is there any world in which she would not seem out-of-place to you?
<kyon> Well, of course the world from 「Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu」. That's where she originated. The world of that story revolves around her. (As much as I wish it did not!)
<koizumi> I thought you might say that. But I think you are making a mistake. Why do you think that she originated from that work?
<kyon> Well, I… I was depicted in it. Before that work came about, nobody in this world had heard of “Suzumiya Haruhi”, or “Kyon”, or “Koizumi Itsuki”, or the “SOS Brigade”…
<koizumi> Such is the conventional wisdom. But suppose for a moment that this story had not had Suzumiya Haruhi in it. What if I told you that we originate in a slice-of-life manga about a literature club, a world without a Suzumiya Haruhi?
<kyon> Wait, are you serious?! That couldn't be! I already saw her disappear once, but that was a corruption caused by [redacted]! Suzumiya Haruhi belongs in this world! She may be a pain, but without her…
<koizumi> Rest assured that this was just a hypothetical example! ^^
<koizumi> But, well, maybe you should not rest so easy. The point is that this is unknowable.
<kyon> So what you're saying is, you don't know this is true, but you also don't know that it's not true? -_-;;
<koizumi> Correct. As far as we know, the nature of this world seems to be fundamentally distorted by the existence of the individual known as Suzumiya Haruhi. But to call it a “distortion” implies we think some fundamental “undistorted” version exists. However…
<kyon> …Suzumiya Haruhi can change history itself? I feel like you have told me this before. Many times. And only now do I begin to get it for myself.
<koizumi> Very good! In a world where Suzumiya Haruhi exists, it is not possible to know how this came to be the case. We cannot establish causality. We consider the world to be “warped” around her, but this is more like a fundamental property of existence.
<kyon> Well, can't Nagato see the other world lines? The space-time thought entity or whatever it's called…
<koizumi> Even the Data Integration Thought Entity is not safe from her influence.
<kyon> You're telling me that even Nagato doesn't know?
<koizumi> Yes. They can see the timelines, even the worlds, where Suzumiya Haruhi exists. However…
<kyon> …they do not know how the timelines relate to eachother.
<koizumi> Precisely. And from this follows that we do not know if Suzumiya Haruhi is an isekaijin.
<kyon> So, Suzumiya Haruhi is such a pain in the arse wherever she appears, that we do not even know where she came from?
<koizumi> That's certainly one way to put it! ^^
<koizumi> But we also could not know if she “came from” somewhere. Perhaps she did not, in fact, originate anywhere in particular?
<kyon> Wait, how is that possible?! I understand that you can't see the relationship between the timelines, but… surely, if you could…
<koizumi> Do you recall the earlier concept? If the idea of Suzumiya Haruhi exists in a world, perhaps Suzumiya Haruhi can force herself into being through some kind of transcendent unconscious will.
<kyon> Well, yes, you did say that… but, what, are you saying the idea of Suzumiya Haruhi did not originate somewhere?
<koizumi> Yes. More specifically, no idea has a specific origin! Every single concept in human history has been independently reinvented an uncountable number of times.
<kyon> But, surely, the name “Suzumiya Haruhi” is rather unusual? Can Suzumiya Haruhi really have been invented more than once?
<koizumi> Perhaps it is possible that the name existed independently of her, waiting for her appearance.
<kyon> Like the true name of God?!
<koizumi> Would that really be so surprising? ^^
<kyon> …
<kyon> I wish I knew whether to believe you. I don't want to.
<koizumi> Well, this is just one interpretation.
<kyon> I think I have a headache…
<koizumi> In any case, whatever the answer to this might be, we can't act on the outcome either way. Suzumiya-san cannot be permitted to know if she is an isekaijin.
<kyon> (Don't worry. If you told her, there's absolutely no way she'd believe you!)
yahoo~! i'm back in Copenhagenszawa!! another successful trip in the illustrious history of the SOS Brigade!!!
unfortunately, my luggage is not back! what a disgrace! can you really believe this!!! how could they do this to me, Suzumiya Haruh—<hikari> yeah so i've been through this before at the same airport, most likely i'll get it brought to my home in two days, glad i packed carefully
@hikari 💭 Suzumiya hikari
@scarlet what… are you supposing we would get married or something? pervert!!! y-you can't…