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β€ͺyou can't really see it in the photo and i can't take more photos rn but i have to say i am really impressed by how shiny and nice the packaging is, especially for something that costs this little. they really want to sell you on it. better than on more expensive yamaha products!‬

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β€ͺi don't think most of the orchestral stuff is much to write home about but i appreciate that it's there? and i appreciate that the synth leads reflect that society has moved beyond general midi and instead are relatively usable stuff (i say this as a known general midi defender!)‬

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i can already tell and i already knew from prior research that the many limitations of this thing's features (each of which gets precious few buttons) will annoy me. but it probably has the right limitations. i can always do fun stuff even if it's not always exactly what i want

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β€ͺok so. the built-in sounds of the Yamaha PSS-A50‬

β€ͺthe good news is that they're the Yamaha PSR sounds, i think? definitely that piano is. that's also the bad news if they're not to your taste. but i love some of these and i'm beyond excited i can throw them in a backpack‬

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i've had this problem for a while now where my biiiig old yamaha psr has my favourite piano tone but i haven't had access to it for half of this year, and i've been stuck with the CBX-K1XG that isn't a good substitute in that department. i wish i had gotten the PSS-A50 earlier!

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this is a lean mean ideas machine. i say β€œideas” because all the features offer myriad creative possibilities, but you can at best layer three different things at once, one of which is played live, and you'll need something external to record the idea into, but it's… So much fun

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okay here's a real example of why i'm enjoying the Yamaha PSS-A50 so much. this $100 toy keyboard lets me:

  • play three arpeggiated chords, record and loop this
  • play another arpeggio and β€œhold” it on top
  • play piano live on top
  • apply a β€œmotion effect”

kinda grooveboxy :3

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long post about why i really like the PSS-A50's β€œarpeggios” system compared to other Yamaha β€œstyles” systems Toggle visibility

i am really enamoured with the PSS-A50's β€œarpeggios” feature. it feels like i finally found the version of Yamaha's β€œstyles” system that actually really clicks with me. i've tried two other takes on this before, the PSR-350's auto-accompaniment and the QY70's pattern system…

the PSS-A50 arpeggios have two really important features:

  • flexibility: i can take any of the 116 built-in patterns (intended for various instrument types!) and play them on any instrument with any chord in any octave
  • immediacy: it responds instantly to the chord i am currently playing (and its notes' velocity!), so i can very naturally alternate chords or start and stop or whatever in real time

and then these round out the package:

  • you can press a button that will β€œhold” an arpeggio, so it just loops in the background
  • you can change out the pattern of a held arpeggio while it's playing
  • you can record arpeggios into a phrase and loop it (separate from a held arpeggio)

on the PSS-A50, you only have those 116 patterns stored in ROM, and you can only layer two arpeggios at once in the way i described. that's pretty limiting! but it's just so easy to do stuff within those constraints…

on the other hand, while the QY70 may let you layer 24 things, both custom ones and built-in ones (and there's like, hundreds of patterns in ROM), it's so much clunkier. and then on the PSR style system, well, you don't even control what the individual layers are; Yamaha have picked a set of layers and instruments for you, all you get to pick is the chord. that's way less flexible! high-end PSRs do let you edit these but it's even clunkier ^^; (and i don't own a high-end one anyway)

so in the end, the system that wins for me, if i just want to get in the zone creatively and come up with ideas, is the one i can most directly β€œplay” with in interesting ways, and the PSS-A50 is doing great at that :3

on its own i can't make a full song, but there's MIDI I/O…

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another cool thing about the PSS-A50 is if you put batteries in it you can use the phrase recorder to save a little musical idea whenever you stumble on it, then when you aren't busy with more important things you can connect it to your computer and record back the MIDI over USB

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β€ͺi am still in the honeymoon phase for this product but… maaaan i already feel like it's either my best or my 2nd best purchase out of all my music gear, and it's also the 2nd cheapest of all the things i've bought, it's ridiculous. i feel the barriers to creativity falling away‬

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Claire , @hokaze@treehouse.systems
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@hikari Sorry, this might be my brain being mush or me not understanding the particulars of how yamaha keyboards setup their instruments but I don't understand what you're getting at?

I may have also written my reply poorly with the implicit about brass = wrong not made explicit

Your toot: sax is listed as woodwind instead of brass lmao

My toot: it should be listed under Reed per the GM spec, but woodwind is also technically correct, a sax definitely isn't a brass instrument though (despite being made of Brass, that's not what actually defines it)

Your toot: but GM has a reed category

Me: ???

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josef , @jk@mastodon.social
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@hikari i got a reface CP a couple of months ago and it's really nice to just have something i can play casually while sitting on the sofa the same way i would a guitar. the sounds a very usable in a mix, quite good for doing demos (i plug mine into a zoom R12). it has that secret hidden stereo grand piano setting too which is handy. it would have been nice if they'd put in a secret hidden entire XG tone generator though, but maybe i'm being unreasonable

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josef , @jk@mastodon.social
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@hikari i've played a lot of keyboards over the years and the reface is the only small-nonstandard keybed i've ever used that's actually remotely good?? in general i think 80s yamahas have very good action, i use a DX7 mk1 as my main controller despite it only outputting MIDI up to vel 100 (it almost predates MIDI and they misunderstood the standard) just because it's SO springy, which i love. mid-late-80s (DX7mkII/SY77 etc, the korgs after the buyout) are more normal but still very high quality

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josef , @jk@mastodon.social
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@hikari even the expensive rolands seem a bit hit and miss imo, they're about as good as the yamaha PSR type stuff i used to play on as a kid. some of the velocity-less synths can have a really good action, but most generally don't, and aren't that useful as a controller. a notable mention is a real fender rhodes, which is heavy but SO bouncy that you can play way faster than you'd think, the keys almost whack your fingers on the way back up. so much energy to it i've never seen on anything else

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