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i will Always simp for the good enough 20-years-old video or audio format that Just Works and man is h.264 that

we don't need anything else we will just have h.264 + aac .mp4s for everything, the world shall heal

‪check https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Have_the_patents_for_H.264_MPEG-4_AVC_expired_yet%3F for the nuances, there may be stragglers in some jurisdictions‬

@hikari gosh I can’t believe the Canadian patent expired on my birthday

@demize 💖

@hikari there's some more nuance here since I looked this up previously: priority date >= spec date isn't enough to disqualify the patents in the US. They get a 1 year grace period from publication in the US iirc, and the earliest actual publication date (different from date when they voted on finalising the spec) I found of the spec is not March but like September iirc.

@hikari but but but what about HDR?

@hikari (actually you can do 10-bit H.264 so maybe it works?)

@erincandescent @hikari I don’t know enough about HDR to be sure but… 10-bit h.264 in an MKV seems like it could probably carry the HDR metadata even if it wasn’t technically designed to?

@demize @erincandescent @hikari HDR can definitely be carried in a H.264 stream. If I remember correctly, Dolby Vision even has a legacy HDR profile that is based off 8-bit H.264

@erincandescent @hikari HDR is a scam made by big TV to make you buy more TVs

@jeder@miau.jeder.pl @erincandescent@erincandescent.net @hikari@noyu.me It's just like when everything had to have "3D" like 10 years ago or so.

It's pointless technology that will be abandoned by filmmakers a few years from now so if you buy a HDR display you'll be left with no actual HDR encoded films to watch.

@SuperDicq @jeder @hikari Unlike 3D, HDR doesn’t require annoying glasses and actually makes films and TV shows look better

@hikari @jeder @erincandescent @SuperDicq yeah, I don't think the idea of "you can have brighter and darker pixels" is exactly a gimmick… although I'll admit I didn't realize at first that I needed to increase the display's brightness to make it noticeable, so perhaps there's some confusion going on

@SuperDicq @jeder @hikari @erincandescent
Highly doubt that. HDR is a lot more widespread than any consumer 3D ever was, both in hardware (TVs, monitors, phones), software (all major desktop and mobile OSes (Linux is getting there), video players, games) and content.
Even if it somehow died tomorrow there is enough content for years, and it doesn't seem like dying to me at all.

@erincandescent @hikari h.264 for non-HDR, AV1 for HDR, the perfect solution

@hikari I'm thinking about AV1+Opus in Matroska containers 🙃

@hikari I love your enthusiasm! I agree that for the vast majority of people these are perfectly fine.

@hikari AV1 support is widespread these days. Both in hardware and in software.

@hikari Can Wikipedia finally offer actual video soon

@hikari @musicmatze saying that we are old (!) without saying we are old…

@hikari This is going to be a day where we celebrate!

@hikari@social.noyu.me I thought h.264's patent already expired ​​

@hikari@social.noyu.me oh did you mean h.264 patent version 3? (2005.03.01)

@hikari@social.noyu.me hmmm, how did mpv implement it them, if it's still patented?

@hikari@social.noyu.me @green@talk.marq42.xyz well in VLC's case, it's ran by a french association and software parents are not a thing in Europe

@iro_miya @green i think it's more complicated than that but yes vlc/ffmpeg/mpv/etc essentially don't care about us software patent praxis and sort of get away with it, if you're a megacorp and use their software you might get sued tho

@hikari@social.noyu.me what will this mean for the trout population?

@hikari Video encoding format? Had patents? What does this mean exactly?

@hikari is it all of them, some of them or just enough of them, though?

@hikari allmost expired 😢 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Have_the_patents_for_H.264_MPEG-4_AVC_expired_yet%3F