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I don't know what happened but sometime in the past week Something (a software update?) happened to our Debian 13 install and now whenever our laptop goes to sleep it does not wake up again, and this is just suffering

I think we might just switch back to Windows 10 for the moment, I can't deal with this shit

thank you to the person who suggested I do a kernel rollback, I should've tried that

I chose the old kernel 6.12.57 in the GRUB menu and now the laptop can go to sleep and resume as normal

/var/log/apt/history.log shows the 6.12.63 kernel was installed at "2026-01-16 04:38:59"

apparently kernel rollbacks are not a standard process, so here's what I did:

• sudo apt-mark hold linux-image-6.12.57+deb13-amd64:amd64 to prevent old kernel being removed later
• sudo grub-mkconfig to get a list of grub menu entries and submenus
• sudo vim /etc/default/grub, changing GRUB_DEFAULT="Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux>Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 6.12.57+deb13-amd64" (yes, you have to write out the full name of the submenu and the menu item, with > between them…)
• sudo update-grub to apply the changes to /etc/default/grub

ahhhh someone in the Debian support IRC channel helpfully pointed out that since this is a very new laptop, I should probably try the backported newer kernel version (sudo apt install linux-image-amd64/trixie-backports). now we're on 6.17.13 and it works much better!

@hikari If you are considering Linux, and you say you are worried about hardware support, everyone says "just throw it on an old ThinkPad! It'll work great!". The problem is that what no one tells you is that the "old" is load-bearing. If you want to run Linux it absolutely *must* be on an old ThinkPad. If you attempt to run it on a new ThinkPad, or *any* Lenovo product newer than 12 months at a minimum and 24 months preferably, you will be in fucking hell. I have experienced this myself twice.

@mcc @hikari seconded. For reasons that entirely fucking escape me, Lenovo completely threw away their earned reputation of "good for linux" over the last 3 years or so

@hikari @mcc That I do not know.

@neurovagrant @hikari @mcc they do.