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jump to expanded postwindow positioning coming to Wayland, you love to see it
this is a blocker for WINE being really usable on Wayland without using XWayland (and it's a hard blocker for loss32 because the taskbar needs to be at the bottom of the screen!)
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/264
@hikari
What's your stance on X11 support in Loss32?
To me, half the point of doing a FOSS implementation of Windows is to support old hardware that Microsoft and the Wayland people can't/won't be bothered with.
Would be neat if Loss32 worked on laptops and thin clients that run Windows XP/7 just fine, but struggle with 10/11 (even after the "debloat" treatment).
I use the X11 version of KDE, because the Wayland version runs noticeably worse on my Intel HD Graphics 4000 laptop and doesn't seem to support collapsible windows (KDE calls them "shaded" windows).
(I hear Wayland likes to force triple buffering, at least by default)
What's your stance on X11 support in Loss32?
To me, half the point of doing a FOSS implementation of Windows is to support old hardware that Microsoft and the Wayland people can't/won't be bothered with.
Would be neat if Loss32 worked on laptops and thin clients that run Windows XP/7 just fine, but struggle with 10/11 (even after the "debloat" treatment).
I use the X11 version of KDE, because the Wayland version runs noticeably worse on my Intel HD Graphics 4000 laptop and doesn't seem to support collapsible windows (KDE calls them "shaded" windows).
(I hear Wayland likes to force triple buffering, at least by default)
@moses_izumi I think the goal is to target modern hardware first and support legacy stuff on a best-effort basis perhaps. keeping old computers alive is cool and something we do believe in to some degree, but it's not really the thing the project wants to achieve. after all, if you have an old computer, you can just run an old version of windows
@hikari
Yeah, I'm pretty okay with using my Thinkpad T42 as a dedicated Windows 98/2000/MS-DOS box: that happens to be recent enough to run some strains of current Debian.
The bigger question would be "what's the oldest machine that can comfortably run Wine?".
Yeah, I'm pretty okay with using my Thinkpad T42 as a dedicated Windows 98/2000/MS-DOS box: that happens to be recent enough to run some strains of current Debian.
The bigger question would be "what's the oldest machine that can comfortably run Wine?".