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jump to expanded posti think the expectation i add alt text to photos is going to get to me eventually. i'm probably going to give up on it
it's one thing if it's a meme or a screenshot of text. i want that to be accessible, it's no great ask from me. i do that without thinking about it
but it's another thing when it's a photo and the purpose of posting it is to demonstrate the beauty of the object. how should i describe that to someone who can't see it? i'm imposing my own meaning onto it, preventing any “death of the author”, right?
alt text for a photo is an art in itself, it's a creative process. the alt text is its own artistic work. and that's beautiful, on the one hand, but it's also so, so difficult, and i feel like i'm betraying the original through every one of thousands of details i must not.
and you might say, well, without the alt text someone else will have no ability to experience it, that i'm making the work more accessible. and that's true, but i still wonder what the point of it is if this is so. my descriptions only make sense if you have a mind's eye.
who is the audience? i don't think it benefits someone with impaired sight, because they can still appreciate the work. does it benefit someone who has been blind their whole life? it conveys to them what i “see” in a photo, but they will never be able to interpret it themselves?
uhh, that was meant to say “thousands of details i must omit” earlier
i don't know. does all my work have to be accessible? when i write a song, do i need to describe it to someone who can't hear it? am i not doing them a disservice? if they had the sheet music, they could form their own interpretation, but am i obliged to provide one for them?
i wonder, if i tagged all my photos like they're on a booru, would that be enough… that's still an interpretation
the closer anything i make becomes to “art”, the harder it is to describe it, and the more reluctant i am to try
it also demands a certain knowledge of the subject that i simply do not have in many cases. i don't know how to describe in text the texture of a wall when i do not know what material it is made of
it'd be one thing if i was paid to post pretty photos online, but i'm not. i'm an amateur photographer who almost never posts any of her work anywhere because, among other things, alt text is an obstacle
anyway, if i start posting large collections of photos with no alt text, then i'm sorry, but that is probably the only way i can do it, and i hope that my eventual writing about what i see in my photos, and currently existing ai models that can interpret images, can substitute.
i think this is just another instance of me realising that guilt is a really troublesome emotion, at least for me personally, though i've seen the same sentiment expressed before by like… for lack of better words, tpot-adjacent people. even if the goal is good this means is bad
and it's complicated because i don't think people who try to nudge or push you towards putting alt text on everything necessarily want you to feel guilt about not doing so. (some do, certainly, but not all.) it's just a trap that people like me are too vulnerable to.
oh, right, that's the thing i was remembering: “awayness can't aim”. if you make people feel bad about not putting alt text on stuff, your goal might be to guide them towards putting alt text on stuff, but the same emotions work equally well for just not posting at all instead.
the online information sphere is just too good at making me feel guilty about doing things and trying to avoid them, rather than making me excited about doing better things instead and doing those… it's a pattern. i've gotten better at avoiding it with time, though.
as an aside: gods, i could write a lot of words about how memeplexes that make people feel guilty about engaging with particular kinds of art, or engaging with art in particular ways, are corrosive to the human project… but others can express it better and it doesn't spark joy
(also i'm not excited for the “hikari cancelled arc”)
two replies i got that i want to highlight:
• someone wished social media could crowdsource alt text, and i love this idea. i'd rather have a diverse set of interpretations than make it an all-or-nothing obligation on the original poster
• a tiny summary is better than nothing
@hikari “anything is better than nothing, but nothing is fine if you can’t come up with anything” is how I think this discourse should end and somehow it never does
@hikari@social.noyu.me I still miss when YouTube allowed people to submit translated subtitles for videos. That was such a great feature.