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someday i will rant about this. today is not that day. suffice to say that while CREATIVE® SoundFont® technology is okay at General MIDI and offers some fun creative possibilities, it was never good at GM extensions like Roland's GS and Yamaha's XG, and i love those, so i hate it

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that's not an ironic use of the trademark symbol btw. SoundFont® is a registered trademark of Creative Technology. and if you're thinking “hey aren't they the company notable for making sound cards in the 1990's” that's because, yes, this is ancient and obsolete technology

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god i guess one way to explain it is that it's like if you were really into the moog or something and then people are like “oh yeah i love that! i have a moog synthesiser sample library that all my gamer friends tell me sounds the most realistic”. it's not the same instrument

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people will pour great amounts of effort into making the “best” SC-55-soundalike CREATIVE® SoundFont® file and it'll take up like a hundred times more disk space than the original ROMs did and not even support adjusting the fucking filter cutoff, so it can't play electronic music

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oops i guess this did turn into a rant. if you want suggestions for what to use instead, well:

  • hardware: Roland Sound Canvas, Yamaha MU, or similar
  • software: Roland Sound Canvas VA (VST), Yamaha S-YXG50, Nuked SC-55

all more powerful than any soundfont can ever be

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specifically i recommend these if you want accurate playback of 1990's General MIDI/Roland GS/Yamaha XG music or if you want to try to write music for this exciting world that once was. if you just want a way to put 128 instrument samples in a file, SoundFont® is… fine i guess

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josef , @jk@mastodon.social
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@hikari oh fwiw like, definitely the most annoying thing for me about soundfonts is how it's just became a word that means "using the sound from a specific thing that already exists", like i get comments on youtube videos i did years ago where people are asking me for the soundfont i used, or who made it, can they have it. and i'm like?? i just extracted the sounds myself? they were adpcm and now they're wav files? i set loops and envelopes in a sampler VST?

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@jk the process of creating a CREATIVE® SoundFont® file is technically, like, setting loops and envelopes in a sampler (i've done it!), but you're limiting yourself to the specific properties that this crusty old format allows. and then, well, as you're getting at, people seem to imagine that CREATIVE® SoundFont® files just pop out of the ether with no creative effort, as if all music was written for them, which is bizarre

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josef , @jk@mastodon.social
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@hikari i made a bunch of soundfonts quite a long time ago, specifically of sounds from a yamaha pss-6, which doesn't really have any features it can't reproduce: youtube.com/watch?v=nMfbMVjM0g
the thing is, i only really chose it because it was the only self-contained, well-supported single-file sample library i could think of at the time. then i spent a while using sfz, but it wasn't single-file, and kontakt, but i've never liked the software that much. nowadays i largely use TAL-Sampler which i love

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Pixel Purrito , @aperezdc@oldbytes.space
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@hikari while on the original ROMs topic, it's amusing how even the Soundfonts® that sound better are those used specifically for a certain composition. Which means the best ones are the ones shipped with the AWE32/64 or their ROM dump because that's what the music composers at the time were targeting. Which makes it ludicrous to play DOOM with a 200 megabyte Soundfont® loaded!

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Jen, The Eepy , @Jenetrix@tech.lgbt
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@aperezdc @hikari and thats not even getting into the hell that is midi/soundfont implementations that use nonstandard instrumentation and then listening to people whine and complain when they try to play that midi back using a different soundfont and wonder why it sounds like ass.

(and don't even get me started on the nightmare that is the more obscure midi + fm synth formats.)

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