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‪the thing is i had been casually considering its siblings, which are versatile multi-effect pedals in the exact same form factor, and this one has the bigger number, which made me just assume it was strictly more capable? gaah‬

‪it really sucks because usb audio is killer for me‬

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‪zoom also give it the short description of “multistomp guitar pedal”, which is the exact same description as its normal guitar multi-effect siblings with smaller numbers, rather than as a “multistomp looper pedal” like for the other odd one out. my confusion was reasonable surely‬

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‪…i hate that the best alternative solution for my purposes might literally just be to buy the ms-80ir+ together with one of its actually-a-multi-effects-pedal siblings and two patch cables. it just has the Correct form factor, this is a huge selling point to me‬

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Mimir , @mimir@meow.social
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@hikari may I suggest the zoom h4n. it's a different form factor but it:

* will record stuff for you onto an SD card,
* has a built-in stereo mic + two instrument/line/XLR connectors
* is also a *multi-track* recorder w/ stuff like overdubbing, punch in/out, etc...
* pretty good selection of FX, usable in multi-track mode or when operating as an audio interface
* built-in (mono, bad) speaker, plus headphone out
* also usable as a metronome and tuner
* you can probably find old crusty ones for pretty cheap

but

* takes weirdly long to boot up
* weird UI jank
* kinda battery hungry
* I've never tested the FX when using it as a USB audio interface, or tried to use the FX for anything except recording (in MTR mode). so maybe it won't actually work for this at all
* not sure how deep you can make the effects chain, you may only be able to do 2 at a time

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